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Mary-Anne
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Australia
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Posted - 02/03/2009 :  19:49:06  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I must say that green manure crop planted from Eden Seeds that I bought last month have grown high and thick, have to be 30 cms tall or even taller now at what stage or height should I dig them in the beds.

Anyone know.

I wish I knew what plant they are, I know the names just dont know which name belongs to which plant, can I let some grow to maturity so I can gather seeds, I really need the bed for the veggie seed to go in, I dont know how long the green manure crop takes to get to seed, so is that a good idea or not would love to know..


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otamot
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Posted - 02/03/2009 :  22:09:00  Show Profile Send otamot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
MA usually it's before they set seed but you can do it anytime. If you've got vegies ready to go in and you're happy with the size of the green manure just dig it in an go for it. sometimes Im a bit slack with mine and it goes to seed and I get DH to slash it down with the whipper snipper, it just means some of it will grow back from the seeds that dropped so it gives me a bit of weeding to do. If I catch it a bit earlier I'll dig it in to the beds before it gets to that stage.
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medburygardens
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  02:52:58  Show Profile Send medburygardens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I chop all mine down before it gets dug in,makes it a lot easier to dig in then,can ya gives us a photo of your green crop M A
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Mary-Anne
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Australia
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  12:17:33  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that info Ota.. I want to plant the brown onion seeds in one of the beds and Sugar snap peas at the back of another bed and Sp onions or lettuce in the front, I wonder if they companion well I had better do some Googling..

And Richard I will go down and take a photo soon..


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Gail
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  12:51:37  Show Profile Send Gail a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mary-Anne, I just posted a new topic on companion planting. It was a table I did up a few years ago for the school garden club.

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to use it in a fruit salad.

A ounce of common sense is worth more than a ton of intelligence.

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Mary-Anne
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Australia
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  13:48:26  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks so much Gail..

It wont be Sp Onions in front of the SS Peas lettuce it is..
I have a great book too..I actually had a look at it before
Don't seem to hit the gardening books much these days maybe I should..
Got lots of info on companion herbs too..


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Mary-Anne
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  14:20:51  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Richard finally those pics.. This is the smaller bed as in not very deep
The brown onion seeds are going in here by themselves..



Lots of interesting goodies here..








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Mary-Anne
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  14:26:15  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This bed is deeper and much longer could be 3 x 1.2
I know the smaller bed is 2.4 x 1.2



Tall plants these were planted a week or more before that top bed.



Same type of greens I dont know if there is much radish in this one though.




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Mary-Anne
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  14:39:57  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry Richard I forgot to tell you what seeds are suppose to be planted

Beet, Cowpea, Endive, Millet Jap, Millet White, Mung Bean, Purslane, Radish, Rocket, Sorghum, Soy Bean, Vetch, Wyn Cassia, Basil, Dill Coriander.

I recognize the radish, basil, coriander, and one of those big leaf ones are soya beans as I grew them up in Townsville also grew cowpea forget what they looked like I think like the soya bean

I would not know beet if I fell over it or any of those millet I am assuming they are the long thin ones like grass


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medburygardens
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  15:52:42  Show Profile Send medburygardens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
good looking mix there M A,there's a few there i wouldn`t recognize if i saw it like Cow pea,Millet,Purslane,Wyn Cassia,The soy bean is a lot greener than the one i`m growing which is a NZ heirloom brown soy,the leaves on my soy are more yellow in colour


As a green crop,i tried this season growing broad beans,this variety was a Scottish heirloom bean brought out here in the mid 1800`s,i grow it for its seed anyway and normally have seed left over.What i like about growing this bean as a green crop as its tall and weeds are quickly suppressed

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Gail
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Australia
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  19:06:07  Show Profile Send Gail a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Healthy looking crops there. One I do know is wyn cassia as we used to have it growing in a paddock at the last place we lived at. It is often planted in paddocks with pasture grasses as it is a nitrogen fixer. It is similar to the 4th pic but not sure if it is that one. It is normally a fairly flat grower, the leaf is similar to a bauhinia and has small yellow flowers.

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Mary-Anne
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Australia
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  19:28:54  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice looking crop of Broad Beans Richard, we grew a large bed full three years ago and you are right there was no way any weeds could come up between them they are shocking water guzzlers here though that why we never planted them again we did not get the rainwater tank till the next Autumn, also many of them did not grow any beans which surprised me as there were so many bees around.

I may buy a packet of broad beans and put then in the new three smaller beds as green manure that Tony is working on making now.. The third long bed planted last week I did not have enough of the green manure seeds left so I went and got a handful of the chooks mixed grain and threw that on, that will be dug in very early as there were a few sunflower seeds in it..I dont know if I did the right thing there but a girls got to made do with whats around ..

I usually throw in the passed used by date seeds but got none this year as we have been growing veggies non stop for just on two years now thanks to the rain we have had..


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Mary-Anne
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  19:45:00  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I recognize the leaf you are talking about Gail there are heaps of them on the side garden as mulch one of the shrubs we had grew over 5 mts wide 3 mts tall so Tony chopped it down last week to 1 mt x 1 mt


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Gail
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Posted - 04/03/2009 :  03:15:08  Show Profile Send Gail a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mary-Anne do you mean bauhinia was 5m x 3m as wynn cassia doesn't get anywhere near that big? More like 20cm wide x 10cm high max.

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to use it in a fruit salad.

A ounce of common sense is worth more than a ton of intelligence.

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Mary-Anne
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Australia
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Posted - 04/03/2009 :  09:45:01  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes I did mean that about the Bauhinia Gail


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The Estate
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Australia
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Posted - 04/03/2009 :  09:52:02  Show Profile Send The Estate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lots of greenies in here

My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds.

Melbourne
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