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Gail
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Posted - 19/01/2009 :  12:05:35  Show Profile Send Gail a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We bought this at the markets a while ago. It grows in a rosette like a birds nest fern but has different finger-like ends on the leaves. I presume it is some type of Asplenium?



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The Estate
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Posted - 19/01/2009 :  12:11:31  Show Profile Send The Estate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is a nice one Gail, I only have the common ones

My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds.

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pitta
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Australia
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Posted - 19/01/2009 :  15:39:15  Show Profile Send pitta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gail . That wonderful fern has me beat . I am not too sure its an Asplenium. I've been looking at sites .I'm now looking at sites for various Microsorium sp . I posted my Microsorium musifolium var crocodyllus just recently and the way yours grows reminds me of it rather than Asplenium. Don't you love a challenge.
One thing I found about Microsorium is that some grow in water as an aquarium plant, some grow as solo plants while others can climb trees.
They can be propagated by division, cutting or spores.
What makes me consider this Genus is that they have such diverse leaf shapes from fat and broad to strap like , also divided fronds.Pitta.

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pitta
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Posted - 19/01/2009 :  16:21:13  Show Profile Send pitta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gail check out this site . What I found was a Microsorium that could be your plant .
It got 2 names on the site .First they have Polypodium polycarpon which I believe is a synomyn of Microsorium punctatum. All the info I can get on the confusing names is Microsorium is the earliest Genus therefore the valid Genus .Pitta

http://toptropicals.com/pics/garden/m1/Podarki2/Polypodium_polycarpon123OlgaB.jpg

If you want more pics Google polypodium polycarpon and check out any there One that gives good pic is Santa Rosa tropicals information Cobra




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Edited by - pitta on 19/01/2009 17:35:00
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The Estate
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Posted - 19/01/2009 :  17:51:24  Show Profile Send The Estate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hehehe Pitta, you r a great google friend to have

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Gail
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Posted - 19/01/2009 :  19:13:24  Show Profile Send Gail a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Pitta. I'll look into that one in the morning... I have about 5 minutes before I start getting nagged to get off the computer

What made me think it was asplenium was this one http://www.armitageimages.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=stock.detail&itemID=10361

but it doesn't seem to form the rosette like a birds nest type, it is a rhizome.

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pitta
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Posted - 19/01/2009 :  19:51:32  Show Profile Send pitta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gail . The only thing I see with the fern on your site , the shaft of the leaf seems very crinkled , unlike the pic you posted.
Pitta.

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Gwen
Cooktown
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Gail
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Posted - 20/01/2009 :  04:33:46  Show Profile Send Gail a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From what I can work out Polypdium polycarpon is a spreading rhizome, and going by its name - "poly" meaning more than one or many, and "podium" meaning foot - I would assume it has many "feet". I think I already have one very similar though it is only small yet so hard to tell.


Mary-Anne also gave me a piece of a similar fern which I think is one too, haven't any pics of that one yet though Edited as I just found a picture with the one Mary-Anne gave me on a post yesterday. It is the very last picture in my last post, you can just see that fern in front of the old tank. http://gardendelights.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~3135.asp

The plant I have is the same as a birds nest except the ends. It grows in the rosette shape from a single crown. This is what is making it confusing... need a scratching head emoticon I'll keep looking.

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to use it in a fruit salad.

A ounce of common sense is worth more than a ton of intelligence.

Gail, near Gympie, Qld

Edited by - Gail on 20/01/2009 04:47:14
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Gail
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Australia
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Posted - 20/01/2009 :  04:42:57  Show Profile Send Gail a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think I found it - Asplenium australasicum crestata (Crested Birds Nest Fern)
http://www.heatonsferns.com.au/mixed_2/asplenium_cristata.htm

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Pamela
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Australia
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Posted - 20/01/2009 :  05:10:52  Show Profile Send Pamela a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Gail and Pitta are the google queens :-)

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Mary-Anne
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Posted - 20/01/2009 :  07:23:39  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gail I searched for ages yesterday on here looking for that topic where my one was ID ed .. I thought it has something to do with either elk or stag dont know where I got that idea from


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Mary-Anne
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Posted - 20/01/2009 :  07:49:46  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Finally found that topic Gail http://gardendelights.forumco.com/topic~ARCHIVE~true~TOPIC_ID~1527.asp any wonder I could not find it as it was not in ID or Tropicals but in Gardening Happenings..

And one of its common name is Elkhorn fern,

Ed wrote It is a Polypodium polycarpon hybrid!! Note its synonym is Microsorum.

I divided it into many pieces and shared it around..


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Gail
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Posted - 20/01/2009 :  10:56:33  Show Profile Send Gail a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mary-Anne, yep that's the creeping rhizome one you gave me It was doing well until it has gotten very dry the last few months so have been thinking about moving it closer for more regular watering. I knew I had that one and the other one I already had which is similar (but not sure if the same) so I wouldn't have bought another one. This birds nest one was different.

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to use it in a fruit salad.

A ounce of common sense is worth more than a ton of intelligence.

Gail, near Gympie, Qld
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pitta
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Australia
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Posted - 20/01/2009 :  13:43:15  Show Profile Send pitta a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Gail it sure is a hard one, but I'll keepv looking too.I did 'nt realise there were so many types of Asplenium.And the Microsorium is a new Genus to me.Thats another confusing thing , in one Scientific paper they had 2 different spellings of the Genus name.First was Microsorium the other was Microsorum , there seems to be a general preference for Microsorium .Pitta.

Not long to go now before school resumes.




If you want to live and thrive, let the spider run alive.

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Cooktown
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pitta
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Australia
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Posted - 20/01/2009 :  14:07:35  Show Profile Send pitta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If this post above seems out of order to previous post , Well it is . I posted this post in Vegetable site by mistake, a long story i won't bore you with. Pitta..

If you want to live and thrive, let the spider run alive.

Gwen
Cooktown

Edited by - pitta on 20/01/2009 14:08:52
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Mary-Anne
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Australia
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Posted - 20/01/2009 :  14:17:25  Show Profile Send Mary-Anne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I put that link on Gail so you could write down the name of the fern I Gave You just in case I did not put a label on it


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