| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
157 Posts |
 Posted - 23/11/2008 : 18:58:09
|
First lot of seedlings are up :)
These are open pollinated seedlings from Frau Dagmar Hastrup (rugosa). These guys could have been pollinated by anything (but not self pollinated as they are essentially self sterile). About 50 have come up so far and not looking too bad. They are starting to develop rugose leaf texture. I've had one Mary Rose seedling come up and a few from an unknown rose and that's about it so far. My R. pimpinelifolia seeds have done nothing as have my Westerland seeds and Scheezwerg seeds... oh well - the good Frau is a lovely rose :)
|
Edited by - TasV on 23/11/2008 18:59:37 |
|
|
Pamela
head gardener
Australia
3949 Posts |
Posted - 24/11/2008 : 05:39:36
|
How exciting Simon. You are getting me interested I must say! It sounds like a terrible admission, and obvious in hindsight, but there are so many hips here on everything that I did not realise that a hip meant they had been fertilised. I should have realised as there are so many bees here.
Now Gigantea has a number of hips developing. Underneath Gigantea (which is only 2 metres high at the moment but the hips maybe less than a metre from the ground) is three plants of Frau Dagmar Hastrup which like the Giant, has also just been in bloom.
So do you want a hip when it is mature, and well I am thinking also of planting some seeds. I have read about putting them in the frig and have a print out there about that. What I lack is a place to grow seedlings but I MAY have solved that also. This house has no "back" and so no where that is not in public view as I run a business here. There is also no shade except on the small decks front and back and that is too public also. My veggie garden up the back is shady but in the netted off part protected from chooks and ducks it is small and crowded now. But I do have a courtyard off my bedroom with a shady large Japanese maple and I have just taken an old table from elsewhere and put in there. It would be completely shady but it is quite light, not at alll dark. Would this be a good place for summer? In winter I could move little pots to the veggie garden. I used to use the courtyard for my horses when it was heavy rain as there is some shelter but now they have their own shelter so maybe the courtyard is mine again. If I place the seedlings on a tray on this table then I could always move the table over in the courtyard to where there was more light or even morning sun.
"The air of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." |
 |
|
|
Jacqueline
assistant gardener
Australia
249 Posts |
Posted - 24/11/2008 : 07:09:16
|
Well done. That must be super exciting!!!
How long approx. from seeds to flowers?
Jacqueline, Brisbane |
|
|
|
The Estate
head gardener
Australia
3676 Posts |
Posted - 24/11/2008 : 07:28:10
|
Well done Tas, you are a clever little Vegemite  
My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds.
Melbourne |
|
|
|
TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
157 Posts |
Posted - 26/11/2008 : 22:39:48
|
I just grow these guys in a plastic covered greenhouse in seedling flats. Roses, being roses, don't mind their roots being played with that much so I let them grow in the flats for a while then pull them apart and pot them on for a year before putting them in the ground for trialling. I only planted one in the ground last this year from last year's batch (it's about to flower for the first time this year after giving me only one flower (it's first flower), last year... This one I call 'Kindred Ice' because I live in a rural area called Kindred in Tas and it is a seedling from 'Green Ice' and I am starting a rose nursery (mailorder) called Kindred Roses... hasn't been launched yet but is getting close). All the others got binned (about 50 seedlings in all). This is the first year I've tried rugosa seedlings and I like what I see so far. All look to be nicely rugose. I tend to get a little ahead of myself  and pick names for plants that I like... for exmaple someone on another forum described the level of texture in a rose I was trying to ID as 'it's 'rugosity''. I love that term and have decided that the best of these rugosa seedlings is going to be called 'Rugosity'. I have one seedling from 'Mary Rose' and a bunch from an unidentified rose that are looking pretty good so far. I had a stack of duds this year too. None of my 'Westerland' seeds germinated (yet), as haven't the Rosa pimpinellifolia, or 'Scheezwerg' seeds. All up there is about 50-60 seedlings in the green house right now. My greenhouse is just a small kit built one bought at Mitre 10... cost me about $120 and is about 2m wide by 50cm deep and about 2m tall so it fits nicely out of the way and doesn't look too daggy. Problem is they fill up really quickly and all my seedling flats then tend to get put all over the place ... the top of the dog kennel is a good spot right now  When I pot them up I have an old chook yard out the back that I've turned into a 'nursery' where plants are put to harden off once potted on. It's semi-shaded from some enormous tassie blue-gums and fenced off from my marauding dogs/chickens/ducks/kids/goats and has so far *taps head* worked well.
You know Pamela... there is another way youcould experiment with the rose seeds! I have been thinking about this lately and am keen to give this a try next winter/spring. I'm going to dig a new bed over winter and get it nicely rich with all kinds of goodies and then in spring when I take the seeds out of the fridge I want to sow them directly in the ground where they can grow in-situ undisturbed and cause me less fuss through having a pot city all over the place. They can grow and flower to their heart's content there until I decide to cull them after about two years. |
Edited by - TasV on 26/11/2008 22:43:47 |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
Topic Locked