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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
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 Posted - 01/12/2008 : 12:37:53
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Stick to Tropical Plants up there Faye.
On this link from Green Harvest up Top of the Forum it gives you the names of roses that are supposed to grow good here, http://www.greenharvest.com.au/greennotes/Organic_Rose_Care.html I grow a few and still have problems
Of course it will bloom and with all that rain you will get heaps of Black Spot, mildew, aphids, white fly, thrip, caterpillars and bud grubs, because you have so many tall trees in the garden and so do I and that where these nasty blighters come down on threads to devour those beautiful blooms.. Then there is scale probably the easiest one ot get rid of.
Every time I get new growth or buds I get this the badies and the good guy
They eat everything and its a lot worst than this believe me.I come out some mornings to find the little bud grubs have got through so many of the buds they have completely ruined them
If you want to try one, grow it in a pot so you can move it around and put it undercover when it rains heavy or when the sun and hot winds scorches the petals.
And BTW those milk sprays do not work here I don't care that people say I tried it for many months spraying every week
That's my two cents worth, It can only be your choice
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The Estate
head gardener
Australia
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Posted - 01/12/2008 : 12:59:57
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I agree, I get the big guns out when it comes to my roses  
My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds.
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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
10809 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2008 : 13:01:27
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Yes those organic sprays dont work here at all..
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Cree
assistant gardener
Australia
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Posted - 01/12/2008 : 13:03:40
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Don't get put off Faye!
Most of the David Austin roses have no or little warm climate roses in them other than what they get if you trace the HT in them 50-100 years back to a Tea rose cross. Just looked up Graham Thomas and in the first 4-5 generations it is HT, Floribunda, Poly, Gallica and a bunch of Large Flower Climbers and HT Climbers. DA are very modern rose and mostly cold climate bloodlines. So it is like comparing apples to bananas, both are roses but they are very different.
Mary Anne, I don't think you should or need to grow any rose you do not like. If you only like HT's there is nothing wrong with that. Goodness knows most of the world feels that way! However, can I ask what it is you do not like about Tea roses?
I only found out about them when I had reached the end of my rope trying to grow HT's. I had grown HT's all my life and never had the problems with them I had here in OZ. They just shut down in the heat, were often leafless from blackspot, the flowers crisped in the sun, they look really bad about 90% of the year.
When I first saw tea roses they were very different to what I was used to, but I decided to give them a try. I put away what I thought a rose should be and just look at them as something different to learn about. Now I can not imagine not having them in my garden.
Yes they are suited to our climate and all of those other good things, but there is much more about them. They are beautiful in a way that no HT ever is. They are refined, gracious, subtle, natural, dignified, confident and have an air of timelessness.
It took about 6 months of having them in the garden for me to start to see all of these other traits, traits having much more to do with beauty than serviceability. I no longer consider the Tea roses as a next best second choice to the HT. Now to me the HT looks like it somehow lost it's soul along the way.
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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
10809 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2008 : 13:19:19
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I knew you would reply but I did not think it would be this quick.
I never said I did not like tea roses I said I don't want to grow those kind.
If you had been hounded down as much as I have about what roses to grow on this forum you would never come back here..
We all have different taste buds Cree and I prefer DA roses and noisettes I also like HT and Floribunda, and I don't like pink roses very much most of those roses are pink or white you all talk about..
Everyone knows my colour of choice is orange or shades of yellow or apricot and that's what I am trying to grow most of..
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Cree
assistant gardener
Australia
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Posted - 01/12/2008 : 14:07:19
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Sorry I responded too quickly, I'll try not to do that to you again. I just love to talk about tea roses, it has nothing to do with you. I actually had not noticed there was a page 2 when I responded, so did not even know you had posted.
I am sorry you have been hounded and as I said you should grow the type of roses you like best, and I really do mean that.
Here are some yellows and apricots coloured roses, offered as a peace offering...
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TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
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Posted - 01/12/2008 : 18:45:30
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Mary-Anne... have you seen these:
http://www.brindabella-gardens.com.au/
I've not heard much about them except they claim to be breeding roses for hot humid climates and are based in QLD, though Toowoomba is hardly tropical QLD LOL! |
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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
10809 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2008 : 19:48:38
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Bishops Lodge is a lovely looking one Cree looks a little like my Crepuscules Lady Huntingfield is a nice colour also. Oh respond as quick as you want that's good as I can reply but I had to get back to my paving as I took a longer lunch break feeling my age, and could not hang around any longer.. Thanks for sharing your delightful roses.
Yes I have seen that link Simon, and I was quite surprised to find that those thorn-less roses were for sale at the local BigW in June and you are right Toowoomba is not what you would call average Qld I just looked at the weather there its the same as here now 24 degs with 32% humidity our suburb humidity is 71% .. Blackspot Busters it would not work here all roses get BS
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Cree
assistant gardener
Australia
76 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2008 : 20:49:13
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Maryanne I don't think I would recommend BL Linton Gold for your area. It gets a bit of black spot here. I think it might be a Pernetiana.
Lady Huntingfield is an Alister Clark rose and might do well in your area. It never stops blooming.
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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
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Posted - 03/12/2008 : 11:40:57
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I like Alister Clarkes roses maybe next time, you know when we get months of dry weather its hard to keep them alive so I dont think I will be planting any more roses unless these die.
But Thanks For Your Help. 
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