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TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
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 Posted - 09/11/2008 : 20:52:26
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| Probably not this one Cheryl... this is is a PITB really! The flowers don't last very long and the anthers turn brown after only one day so because the flowers all open at different times in any one group of buds you never get all the flowers looking the same... you always get some that look a bit past their used-by-date and some that look like like fried eggs (sunny side up ;) lol). It has a REALLY strong perfume... a bit fruity... am glad it doesn't flower at the same time the buddleja LOL that would just be too much! There are a lot of roses that are like this though and it's great to hear that people are growing them and even better news that they are exhibiting them, and even better news again that they are kickin' butt LOL |
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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
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Posted - 09/11/2008 : 21:18:27
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Love your pics Simon also Scabrosa I must say its a wonderful colour and plant Pamela offered to post me cuttings up a while back actually it could have been last year, but to tell you the truth I could not be bothered as I don't have any success with getting cuttings to root and we were still in drought mode. Now I find the garden getting too much for me..
So I will just look forward to your beautiful photo's and Thanks for sharing..
Friends are the flowers in the garden of life
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Pamela
head gardener
Australia
3949 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2008 : 05:37:24
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I also love Scabrosa and have about 60 of them and am trying hard to get them to line my 300 metre driveway both sides. The ones I have so far are grafted as I do not want them to sucker in the garden but where I have lawn there is no probs as I can just mow over any suckers. However I have just failed with a plastic storage container with a couple of hundred cuttings in it and all dead- don't know what I did wrong. But I will just try again. Simple.
I love the hips almost more than the flowers and teh bees = soooooooooo many bees on each bloom and so mnay hundreds of blooms. That's why I want to expland to a bee hive up on the hill one day.
"The air of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." |
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TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
157 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2008 : 08:13:13
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| Wondering if the package arrived Pamela? Was posted on Monday morning from here. |
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Pamela
head gardener
Australia
3949 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2008 : 10:47:02
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I was at the PO on Friday but no package. I will be there again on Monday. I have been looking out for it.
"The air of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." |
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TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
157 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2008 : 11:42:53
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| Hmmmmm.... I will put some extra cuttings in just in case they don't survive the trip. |
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The Estate
head gardener
Australia
3676 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2008 : 14:42:46
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 It is a ovely rose Tas, how are the rest of your many 100's going, should all coming into flower about now, dont forget our piccies 
My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds.
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TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
157 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2008 : 18:24:48
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Not up to many hundreds yet... have cracked the hundred mark and have a handfull of seedlings on their way up... not enough hours in the day though :(
I might be down to a hardy handful after tonight though.... blowing a gale down here... has blown over two already :( |
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Pamela
head gardener
Australia
3949 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2008 : 18:30:49
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Simon
The baby roses arrived today and are already in pots now. Arrived in great shape. Thank you.
Daniel - I am feeling guikty that I did not package your plants nearly as well as Simon did mine. I was nervous about using water in the post packs but Simon managed this well using a plastic bag with water in it and a cardboard container. If you send me your address Daniel I will re send the plants I sent you using the same method as Simon at my expense.
"The air of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." |
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TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
157 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2008 : 18:43:05
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| Ahhh... great to hear. Those carboard tubes were recycled from mailroder buddleja I purchased from Ladybird Roses. The idea for sealing them in plastic bags came from mailing aquarium plants around. I was worried they might begin to grow mould on them and that would be the end of them. A good watering down with seasol, or some similar tonic, should see these guys on their way. If you plant them in the ground now (I would pot them on for a few weeks at least though) you won't see much growth on the existing stems, however, you will notice strong thick suckers shooting up that will consume these thin stems and form the foundation of the new plant. It will spread to a bit over a meter in diametre in the first year if they take off like mine did. Could easily be trained as a climber I think. Mine are going to be trained as mounded shrubs. I wish quarantine wasn't so harsh into Tasmania. I'd love to exchange plants with others on here. There is a way around it, however (legally too) that I used to get my old roses from the NSW Central Coast down here to Tasmania this winter. I had them sent to a mailorder nursery who has quarantine clearance, they were cleaned, packed and sent down here accompanied by a plant health certificate for $30 for about 15 roses... Thought that was pretty reasonable. |
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TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
157 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2008 : 18:44:34
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| Pamela... my driveway sounds like yours... long! How are you going to deal with weeds coming up through the scabrosa lining the driveway? |
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Pamela
head gardener
Australia
3949 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2008 : 19:42:18
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Good question. First I have to get some cuttings going of Scab. I planted 10 out and then lost them on a 36 degree day, even with mulch around them - forgotten the issue that consumed me that day a week or so ago and prevented me watering them on that day but it happened. I also have a large plastic storage container with river sand and peat moss and ab out 300 cuttings started in winter and all died. I am about to throw it all out and clean out the container with bleach.
So .... when I have some successful scabrosa cuttings, plans are to fill the gaps with nepeta. I have some of this on one side of the driveway but that on the other side died in the hot sun (we get VERY hot days here occasionally and for all of January). But I can be patient. I think nepeta will be good. I also have the little blue stars that spread very rapidly - there was a thread about them - but they have now all disappeared as they only flower in spring. The combo is good and the contrast of the blue with the scab is good. But scab spreads so far laterally that there are not really many gaps if at all ...
So far I am about half way down my driveway. It will take me years to get the scabs and some blue under all the way down but imagine the joy of achieving that!
"The air of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." |
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TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
157 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2008 : 20:06:18
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Those multiflora plants I sent you will make you a steady supply of understocks if you wanted to speed things up a bit by budding the 'Scabrosa' instead (I cringe at the thought of trying to bud those thorny buds!!!)... I only have one 'Scabrosa' and it's budded... I never understood why someone would bud 'Scabrosa', however, it would be a good way of getting things going for you... you could bud them onto shortish rootstocks and then, when you plant them, bury the graft so the top sections forms its own roots and takes over from the understock.
Anyway... I'm procrastinating... I have 60 reports to write tonight and I don't want to do them :( |
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Pamela
head gardener
Australia
3949 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2008 : 21:32:25
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poor you Simon - life post science is so much more relaxing I must say.
Brilliant idea - scab is grafted as it is sooooooo good at suckering. I would ideally like to do some budding and have some old surgical tooks for dissecting a nerve into 30 or more strands and these will no doubt be perfect. But wouldn't Simon's multiflora sucker also? I will read up on budding.
Right now I am overwhelmed with my garden - masses and masses of area with planted roses or other plants now surrounded with weeds that are twice as high as the rose and dense as possible. It's just the size of the beds. I am atacking by spreading whole newspapers (wet if possible as the weight holds down the high weeds) and then pea straw. I have so far spread hundreds and hundreds of newspapers from newsagents and several neighbours and have bought about 60 bales of rice straw @$12 a bale and tongith I have another 5 bales on my ute but not a lot of newspapers - only a trailer full and these will not go far. But maybe I can do some tomorrow before the rain sets in. I just cannot do anything else in teh garden until I get this mulch over the weeds as the weeds are all flowering and spreading. It is a lush valley - lush for weeds as well as plants.
Today I pulled out a great stand of salvia ungul??? - bog sage - it filled my ute in a dome that came up as high as the headboard. I cannot plant things like this salvia that is so happy in the boggy soil here and spreads like wildfire. I might try some in a less wet area as it is a pretty salvia with mid blue flowers. It all takes sooooooo long to just get the mulch on, In a few weeks here, if anything like the previous years, it will be 40 degrees here every day of the month and simply too hot to do any more than water the fragile and be nursemaid but only in the early hours of the day or early evening.
"The air of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." |
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TasV
assistant gardener
Australia
157 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2008 : 13:30:35
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| Yep... the multiflora will sucker pretty well so when you strike the cuttings for budding you excise the buds from the cutting by scooping the them out with a sharp knife including some woody material (just to make sure you get it all). You leave the top one or two buds on so that the plant directs its growth to them and concentrates on growing roots below the ground and once struck you can bud them and snip the remaining understock buds of once taken so the energy is then redirected into the new buds. Water the understocks really well for a period before budding so that the cambium layer is easy to pull back and if you can't find any budding tape to tie the buds in get yourself some plumbers tape to hold them in. |
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