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The Estate
head gardener
Australia
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 Posted - 04/05/2008 : 09:32:44
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The only thing I can think of is that it needs repotting, been in the same for for 4 years, any ideas, I cannot see any bugs or fungus type thingos 
It is slowly get worse each week, It is in afternoon shade 
My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds.
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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
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Posted - 04/05/2008 : 10:00:07
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Maybe it also could be lack of water at some stage or too much fertilizer.
Could be the potting medium is so dry its just running out the bottom can you plug it up and water if its big, if its small immerse it in a trough till the water covers it..
My thoughts anyway not that they are always right..
Good Things Come To Those That Wait ... I am Tired Of Waiting
Love Your Enemies... It Will Drive Them Nuts |
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The Estate
head gardener
Australia
3676 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2008 : 10:10:36
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They are about 3 mtrs. including pot and on drippers, I recently fed them a weeks or so ago, so hoping that may help ???
My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds. |
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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
10809 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2008 : 12:38:17
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Still could be dry Cheryl just because they are on dripper does not mean they are getting the water where it is wanted my bougainvillea in pots at the bottom of the back steps seem to dry out so fast even though they are watered, They may need repotting as they are probably all roots now and not much else.
Only trouble is with bougs you can transplant them but thy don't like too much cutting of roots down to size.. Actually they hate it, do Camellia's mind..
Good Things Come To Those That Wait ... I am Tired Of Waiting
Love Your Enemies... It Will Drive Them Nuts |
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The Estate
head gardener
Australia
3676 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2008 : 12:40:58
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No idea, may have to visit my friend 'google' 
My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds. |
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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
10809 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2008 : 12:49:59
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Yep it would know..
Is Google Female for Male.
I vote for Female as us Girls know a bit of everything..
Good Things Come To Those That Wait ... I am Tired Of Waiting
Love Your Enemies... It Will Drive Them Nuts |
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Gail
garden sage
Australia
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Posted - 04/05/2008 : 19:25:30
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How long since they have had a thorough drenching to wash any build up of salts out of the mix?
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to use it in a fruit salad.
A ounce of common sense is worth more than a ton of intelligence.
Gail, near Gympie, Qld |
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Pamela
head gardener
Australia
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Posted - 04/05/2008 : 20:02:59
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Good idea re the drenching. I would be for pulling it out of the pot and dunking it in a large container of water and leaving it there for a couple of hours. Then deciding what to do after looking at the root growth. Maybe trim some of the roots and replant if it looks like it needs new soil or not. But I probably would if I have gone to the trouble of pulling it out of the pot.
Be careful about Mrs Google. She is full of misinformation. Lots of opinions and many of them seriously flawed. In academia there is a tradition of "refereeing" in which whatever you publish has to stand severe criticism from experts in the area. It is a brilliant system, if it works as it is often abused, but the consequence is that in some scientific journals, you can expect to believe what is published as an accurate summary of previous findings and an accurate account of the new observations. However Mrs Google allows anyone to say anything.
For my money, advice from some people on this forum are worth far more as they have a great deal of experience. That's why I like this forum and also some others.
"The air of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." |
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The Estate
head gardener
Australia
3676 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2008 : 09:58:28
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 thanks will do that this weekend 
My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds. |
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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
10809 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2008 : 11:21:27
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Hope you have a crane handy, you did say they were 3 mts tall 
Good Things Come To Those That Wait ... I am Tired Of Waiting
Love Your Enemies... It Will Drive Them Nuts |
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The Estate
head gardener
Australia
3676 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2008 : 11:28:54
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nearly 2 plus the pot, Mmmm better have my weaties for breaky
My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds. |
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Mary-Anne
garden sage
Australia
10809 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2008 : 19:25:41
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I think you will need more than Wheaties.
Maybe there is a strong Guy around to help..
Good Things Come To Those That Wait ... I am Tired Of Waiting
Love Your Enemies... It Will Drive Them Nuts |
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The Estate
head gardener
Australia
3676 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2008 : 08:47:48
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There is but he has a bad back I think if I lay the pot on its side and tug it out  I like a challenge
Do they like dymanic lifer ?? as I tend to mix that in most of my potting mixes along with B & B and manure ??
My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds. |
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Pamela
head gardener
Australia
3949 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2008 : 09:01:02
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I would be VERY careful about Dynamic Lifter in a potting mix. It is very strong. I LOVE the stuff and pile it around my roses as it makes them bloom, but they are in the ground and I do it when rain looks likely. But in a pot, it might not be a great idea - Gail is very good with this sort of knowledge and Mary Anne has also had a lot of experience. I would be looking for their advice here. If I put DL on, it would be a few sprinkles on the top and well watered in.
For such a large and clearly precious tree can you make your own potting mix? Maybe starting with the very best you can buy and put it out on a tarp and mix in some manure as you say and maybe some B&B and let that all 'ferment' for a few days in the sun to start breaking down. I know these things can burn the roots so you don't want a big glop of it near a root. Maybe there is other stuff you can add to the mix that is good - but I don't know what.
I will be looking here again to see what the 'banana benders' have to say ...
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Gail
garden sage
Australia
7707 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2008 : 11:47:02
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I don't use DL but should be alright in the potting mix, it is only a mild plant food and says on the link below it is suitable for potted plants but if you are worried just spread some on top instead of mixing it with the potting mix. Remember that less is often best too, a little food more regularly is better than a heap less often.
http://www.yates.com.au/products/organic-gardening/fertiliser/dynamic-lifter-organic-plant-food/
Most good potting mixes have food already added anyway and if you mix in manure, b&b, etc it shouldn't need much more.
If you don't want to go to the trouble of re-potting (though it would be the best way) just drench the pots thoroughly preferably a few times over a couple of days to flush out any salts. Drip watering is excellent water-saving but doesn't flush the soil and will often over time form a sort of track that the water will run through and out the drain holes without soaking the soil or watering the plant. Every few weeks give the soil a thorough watering with the hose or bucket unless you've had good rain.
You could also mulch the top of the pots with compost or manure, and mix it into the soil as much as possible. As it breaks down it will help the soil composition. An occasional dose of liquid manure would also be good.
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to use it in a fruit salad.
A ounce of common sense is worth more than a ton of intelligence.
Gail, near Gympie, Qld |
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The Estate
head gardener
Australia
3676 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2008 : 12:41:45
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I buy the elcheapo potting mix and build it up myself, have been doing this for years and works well. I might get the special mix suitable for them at the B store to be on the safe side, will take pics of the root ball !! And yes I mulch my pots on a reg. basis, great for keeping the weeds down :)
My basic weeding rule: if they grow in rows they're flowers;
if they don't they're weeds. |
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